atracaelum:

yugimew:

also why is a Lemongrab Pez dispenser not a thing

if it is, why do I not have one

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Yeah I can see it

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merleawe:

didactically:

merleawe:

familyoflunatics:

merleawe:

dragonkeeper19600:

Boss fight with the Lemongrabs and adjacent cut scene.

I don’t know what they’re talking about either. I… I just don’t. 

     It would seem like for the first half of that they were talking about the sentient bubblegum-like appendage that are both lemongrabs arm, as well as the ones found all over the dungeon.

LG2: “I suspect the unusual appendage.”

LG: “Oh this? It’s not long for the world— I have deemed it UNACCEPTABLE!”

LG2: “Forgive my weakness… I cannot bring myself to uncleave the flesh— the rind— of lemon.”

LG: “Nor can I. We’d best prepare for woe.”

    It’s like LG2 was apologizing for not being able to bring himself to remove the bubblegum from LG’s arm (The definition of “Rind” is the tough outer skin of citrus fruit. At the time, the outerskin of lemongrabs arm is in fact, the bubblegum appendage). This is likely linked to some sort of emotional attachment to their creator, PB, who is (obviously)also made of bubblegum. LG then agrees and goes on to say that he can’t either- and that they’d best be prepared for woe (great sorrow or emotional distress).

Then they go on to say;

LG: “And yet… perhaps these are they for whom we’ve waited.”

LG2: “Yes. I agree”

     I honestly can’t say for sure what that is, I can only say it seems like “perhaps these are they for whom we’ve waitedis referring to the sentient bubblegum in the dungeon. This statement is likely foreshadowing. We aren’t meant to know exactly what they mean… yet.

     But then when you defeat them, what they say is far clearer. They are talking about how PB tricked them into entering the dungeon for the purpose of experimenting on them. The “needles and zapping” were the described instruments used to conduct bio tests on them. Which PB is often seen using in her lab. They say (after she lured them in the dungeon);

LG: “Then, once she had lured us in. Began the experiments.”

LG2: ”Sampling continued unabated(without any reduction in intensity or strength).”

LG: “So many experiments. And for what?”

LG2: “To create a monster.”

LG: “But a monster is not becoming a monster.”

LG2: “No. We resisted with much success. And now. For revenge.”

LG: “Yes. Revenge. It will flow sour through the kingdom.”

     What it means is that the experiments that PB conducted was to change the Lemongrabs in someway. WhenLG said "But a monster is not becoming a monster he was refering to himself and LG2. This is confirmed when LG2 says; "No. We resisted with much success. And now. For revenge.

     However, since LG isn’t fat, and LG2 hasn’t lost limbs yet- it confirms that this happened before the events of “Another 5 short gaybles”. And this is in fact- another addition of foreshadowing towards his upcoming coming arc as the villain for this or next season. It’s basically giving us another motive for what is going down with him. The adventure game staff already stated that the reveals in the game will be canon.

     (By the way, When reading lemongrabs text, the trick is to remember the rule that the Lemongrabs rarely refer to themselves or the things effecting them directly. They always have a complex “Old-world” storytelling way of explaining what happens to them; without directly referring to what it is.)

And now with that I shall crawl away back into the depths of my homework. Uwu

so if this is playing before Five More Short Graybles, lets say shortly after All your fault….then its possible that PB after this started with her experiments on them, because of this the first LG went nuts and started to act like a totally jerk…if this whole experimenting stuff is true, then PB is a bigger bitch as i thought :/ i thought personally that the pink gum(PBs parents so to speak) lured them in the dungeon however but maybe i got this in the wrong context. Its interesting to read however and i didnt knew that this game is canon O_o. This gives me actually hope for the Lemon Twins

If you think this makes PB look bad, you should take a look at my analysis on “Too Old” as well. Because I went over A LOT of stuff there.

I don’t hate PB however, because part of her development is to learn to accept things as they are and not the “perfect” she wants them to be. Just like how Lemongrab’s development is learning to be himself despite societies standards, and Finn’s is growing up- developing as a hero.

Lemongrab’s development has a big barrier in the way however, and that’s Princess Bubblegum. Everything he’s come to be is because she neglected him and caused others to outcast him and label him a freak. Instead of giving him a chance.

I believe that if PB ever accepts Lemongrab for what he is, she will not only fulfill this stage of her development, but also pave the path for his own.

PB didn’t go out of her way to neglect Lemongrab, the thing is Lemongrab’s own lemon heart is unsuited to getting along with others. She’s tried to teach him how to treat other people nicely but he’s unable to cope with it for some reason, although Lemongrab 2 has learnt why treating others like dirt is a bad thing the hard way.

He had to be kept alone because he didn’t want to get along with others, and this was something he was born with. PB isn’t the kind of person to just send someone away without trying to help them, but she couldn’t help him fit in so the only thing to do was to build an Earldom for him to live in.

Lemongrab at his core was unsuited to living in society, and you can’t just accept someone whose idea of leadership is dungeons, torture and coercion. I believe he will change in the end and learn from his brother, but you can’t blame PB for the way he turned out. Lemongrab 1 was just born like that.

I doubt PB herself forcibly experimented on the Lemongrabs because it would be out of character for her. She accepted how the Lemongrabs were in All Your Fault and the only reason she punishes or tortures people is because they’re a threat to her Kingdom. After all if she did torture them in that way, the Lemongrabs would have taken revenge on her as soon as they were out of the dungeon. She generally has a hands off approach things to things that don’t explicitly affect her kingdom.

The episode “Goliad”contradicts your entire statement. She probably didn`t teach him all that much.

     In `Goliad`, PB created Goliad to be a “Perfect being”in order to replace her, but as soon as it went sour, she created another creature, Stormo, who’s life was made for the entire purpose of locking Goliad in psychic combat for the rest of eternity- at the cost of his own life. (This parallels with Lemongrab 2, who was created for no purpose other than to keep Lemongrab company.)

     Fact is, PB didn’t really try to teach Goliad anything. She made him and then told Finn to do it while she was away. Why make an all mighty powerful being JUST before you have to leave? Besides, if he was REALLY that easy to corrupt, Peppermint Bulter(who will do absolutely anything hes told) or simply locking Goliad in the castle while she was away would have been a far smarter choice. Fact is she didn’t, she used another creation’s life to take care of her mistake for her.

But mind you, PB is only like this to her creations. She is never like this to her friends or anyone else in the kingdom. The reason being, which she has ALREADY STATED; is that she has no emotional attachment to any of her creations.

This is a re-occuring trope in PB`s history. So far PB has created:

-Lemongrab, who was created to replace her but was quickly abandoned

-Goliad, who was created to replace her and sentenced to eternal psychic combat due to corruption.

-Stormo, created for the sole purpose of eternally combating Goliad (at the cost of his life)

-Lemongrab 2, created to be Lemongrabs brother because PB felt bad when he had a breakdown at her castle over being alone.

-PB-Bot(Doppelganger), created for the purpose of being Braco`s wife.

     The thing about Lemongrab is that his heart isn’t whats wrong. Cinnamon bun is weird too, but PB didn’t initially treat Cinnamon bun like a waste of space. In fact, in “You made me” we had a glimpse of what Lemongrab would’ve been like right after he was born(In “Too Old” PB confirmed they started out exactly the same)He would’ve been like Lemongrab 2 is now- Kinder and more generous, but of course he would still be weird. But his weirdness comes from his difficulty of not being able to express himself, not because he’s cruel at heart.

     Lemongrab has never been taught properly that the way he disciplines is wrong(You forget that most of what he`s learned seems to come from old history books, which is apparent in `Too old`). He does it because he finds it effective, and what he expects is the normal way to discipline. This by no means, puts what Lemongrab does in the right. It is what his character is and how he`s developed.

     Know that Lemongrab was initially a throwaway character, who after some consideration, was given more depth(as stated by AT staff). He wouldn`t be one of the more major re-occurring characters(and now a potential villain) if all he was was just `weird and not fit for society`. From a critical standpoint, that literally would not make any sense. Because for that to be true, shows creators would have to have said “Oh yeah, he’s just weird and cruel for reasons.. yeah.” And that would render his entire character ENTIRELY POINTLESS. As well as him being a potential villain entirely baseless and without any motive what so ever.

     Did you read my entire post up there? Or did you just skim through it? Because LG clearly said;

“Then, once she had lured us in. Began the experiments.”

Know this, there is LITERALLY only one person who can tell Lemongrab to go anywhere or do anything, And that’s Princess Bubblegum. Not to mention, it’s Princess Bubblegum’s Secret Dungeon and the Stage Title of the boss battle is “Secret Lab”. Rarely ANY of the dungeons in this game have a different title unless its important.

     So if it’s conceivably someone else, tell me who else has access to that particular secret dungeon, who is adept at science, and is a person who Lemongrab respected enough to be able to be tricked by them, and is female. Also note that Lemon Juice is spilled everywhere, and that’s essentially Lemon blood.

    Also if it wasn’t PB who conducted the experiments, why would they swear revenge on the Candy Kingdom. Who’s wise and noble leader is Princess Bubblegum?

     It doesn’t make sense for it to be anyone but her. Sorry, but the pink bubblegum parents down there don’t seem to be very adept at science. Let alone being able to build a lab, get up and walk out of the dungeon, trick lemongrab and his brother into coming and then conduct experiments. So they are ruled out.

     Like I said before, this doesn’t make PB bad. It makes her have a path of development like the other core characters of the show. Where hers is to learn to accept things as they are, and to love.

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ask-the-two-earls:

pajamaprodigy:

nullvoid0:

“my kids are just sociopaths”

nono

nononononononononononononononofucknononononononononononononononononononoonnoonooonnoooonnonnonoononononono

no.

lemongrab and lemongrab 2 are not sociopaths. do not go throwing around psychological terms if you do not know what the fuck you are discussing. 

on the wiki, it is stated that lemongrab suffers from “an unnamed disorder” and that rather than being intentionally cruel, he is “alienated with an innability to read social cues,” this being a quote yet again from the wiki.

while it is clear that he has harmed other characters, such as with electric shocks in the episode “you made me,” this can be easily chalked up to his lack of understanding of his fellow beings. during his periodic appearances in the show, he has demonstrated great physical strength and stamina. it is entirely probable given his nature that lemongrab would not know that other beings do not have his gifts. when he fucks up with people, he does so often because they do not adhere to his standards. again with the lack of understanding his fellows. (please see the wiki for confirmation)

now, let us go through sociopathic behaviors and contrast these with those exhibited by lemongrab, so i can correct this misconstruction once and for fucking all. sociopaths (sociopathy is currently known as anti-social personality disorder. please think of that next time you say “omg im so antisocial”) are, according to robert hare, an expert in the condition, “social predators who charm, manipulate, and ruthlessly plow their way through life, leaving a broad trail of broken hearts, shattered expectations, and empty wallets. completely lacking in conscience and empthy,they selfishly take what they want … without the slightest sense of guilt or regret.” 

people with aspd are excellent liars and unremorseful about their actions.  lemongrab’s attempts at deciet - fooling people into thinking he “gets” their jokes - are, honestly, pretty transparent. he apologizes to tree trunks for his rudeness, and while he continues to speak to her disrespectfully, he does this because he is “just like this,” that is, not understanding social norms.

also, people with aspd do not have any close attachments and do not form close bonds with other people. lemongrab, however, is shown to care deeply about lemongrab 2 and to love their children. 

so now that we have established the fucking important fact that lemongrab is not a “sociopath,” allow us to move on to point number two, or the shit i would have gotten to in the first place had you not made that little remark.

“their hearts are fine. they’re just like this.” lemongrab and lemongrab 2 do not need fixing. they need each other. they need to be left alone. they need to be someplace neat (as evidenced by lemongrab’s reaction to bubblegum’s castle). they need something over which they may have power. they need to not be touched.

bubblegum is not going to fix them. she recognizes that they are who they are, and that that is an integral part of them. she understands both their needs and what they truly do not need. 

after she says this, they smile. they see that they are not loathed or reviled. they are happy about this. they are acceptable

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(Source: digi-althor)

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hug-bees:

reapersun:

tzysk:

My comic from the Adventure Time Winter Special, which can you buy here! Also some sketches~

Boom! Studios

Hehege~ This the whole comic :p I hadn’t drawn Lemongrab before so this was really fun huhuhuhh

I have this issue and I ADORE this comic, I mean wow.

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atracaelum:

Things I should be doing with my time: probably not this.
Highlighted what I could make sense of. I notice there’s this large block of thought that repeats many times around the same quadrant of brain, highlighted with light yellow around the upper-right/center fold of membrane.
I’m going to use the more intelligible phrases on a thing I’m working on. In the meantime, maybe this will help others to read what’s going on in there?



I see:

"—TLY— to ple— am so eager— man that I can— this tiny candy if let—"

"Theres nothing you can do so just relax and trust-"

"My heart weeps the most sour of-"

"RAGE in your dead h-"

"And sit AND WATCH AS MY PEOPLE SUFFER for any more-"

"Let’s pretend none of this ever happened, if you feel it’s possible TO FEEL ANYTHING-"

"A dive into the sea.  Its a beautiful day to watch my f-"

"I don’t know where I put the key-"

"Breakfast proceeded according to plan adandelion seed—  through corridor forty two- two years ago BREAKF-" For some reason, this line is seen more than any other.

"Portions of candy egg and real grapefruit"  This line is also mentioned elsewhere, but instead with ‘real egg and candy grapefruit.’

"Do you solve a problem like Mario?"

"I was walking through-"

"NIGHT TERROR"

"Look aroun-"

"doughnuts"

"DESTINY made me what I am but it was FATE that kept me through the dark"

"Of an epiphany"

"Take the left fork through the forest, but keep an eye on Leroy because I am afraid he’s POSSESSED BY DEMONS."

"MONEY is no use"

"Take a closer look at the situation at hand please- I think you’ll see that I am far more sane than feell-"

"Herd of turtles"

"Let’s all take a look at what is happening"

"Mommy, don’t make me any more asparagus. It will be the end of me, if you know what I mean"

"DESTROY"

"LOOK AROUND AND Y— please tell me you saw that looking ian-ian.  He was inte-"

"Holy cow, can all of this take any longer?"

"-LIE I’M in it now"

"feasIBLE LOOKING AT THE-"

"I’ll try my-"

"touch bread note"

"We could always look the other way when it comes to our own.  No way"

"CREATING FIRES"

"There’s nothing I can-"

"DRY RUN of my shortcomings"

"—t thohgt I am aw-"

"Please don’t ta-"

"—prepared in the last t-"

"Watching my shadow grow long against the candy kingdom"

"On the road to ruin, men!"

"Stubbed my toe unacceptably on cast-"

"Plan: Lemongrab"

"LEMONGRABS PORTION"

"The genuine article, Lemongrab’s birthday-"

"A look at what’s going on here, RAINS OF cleansing BIRTH!  I should open arms, but it burns IT BURNS!"

"Getting what is rightfully mine and I will reign over this land with terrible fury"

"Try to stop me from walking for days around the kingdom in hopes of finding the ones who have deprived me of my-"

"LOST THE wings OF my pretty little birds"

"My only warning"

"To be a lonely lemon man.  TOO LONELY"

"Unrelenting thirst for the sweet, SWEET NECTAR FOR THREE DAYS"

"Oh what a good boy am I"

”- of my enemies and when all was over.”

"Nonsense I say, NONSENSE"

"Feeel bad for the— who try to read— thoughts— our brain no— because— are to be fo— -n or my fut— but then-"

"Lemongrab’s birthday is only ttwoooo months away and we are very excited for him- will he guess his surprise gift?  No I don’t think so… No no no! It’s not that kind of gift, not the kind one can g—  It’s so EXTRAORDINARY!" This particular line and parts of it appear at least three times, actually.

"Oh, I’m a pretty little flower"

"Please forgive my outburst, I am an angry little Lemongrab"

"I not see the future, you bet I can’t— Would I like to? Of course.  Should I? OF COURSE I SHOULD"

"It look around until the sun is in the hole of your brain mind."

"You would have gone to the ranch if he had"

"CANDY is something I’ll always REMEMBER"

"I’m sorry, pal"

"Call me crazy, but I think it’s time for us to out Johnny"

”- unto others as you would have them destroyed”

"Hello my little pooter"

"Sounds like a nice idea but in reality you’d-"

"Around and tell me I’m not crazy"

Everything else either escaped my eye, or was illegible/incoherent; any ones we didn’t catch would be appreciated.  There’s a larger, clearer, unhighlighted version of the above image here.

atracaelum:

Things I should be doing with my time: probably not this.

Highlighted what I could make sense of. I notice there’s this large block of thought that repeats many times around the same quadrant of brain, highlighted with light yellow around the upper-right/center fold of membrane.

I’m going to use the more intelligible phrases on a thing I’m working on. In the meantime, maybe this will help others to read what’s going on in there?

I see:

"—TLY— to ple— am so eager— man that I can— this tiny candy if let—"

"Theres nothing you can do so just relax and trust-"

"My heart weeps the most sour of-"

"RAGE in your dead h-"

"And sit AND WATCH AS MY PEOPLE SUFFER for any more-"

"Let’s pretend none of this ever happened, if you feel it’s possible TO FEEL ANYTHING-"

"A dive into the sea. Its a beautiful day to watch my f-"

"I don’t know where I put the key-"

"Breakfast proceeded according to plan adandelion seed— through corridor forty two- two years ago BREAKF-" For some reason, this line is seen more than any other.

"Portions of candy egg and real grapefruit" This line is also mentioned elsewhere, but instead with ‘real egg and candy grapefruit.’

"Do you solve a problem like Mario?"

"I was walking through-"

"NIGHT TERROR"

"Look aroun-"

"doughnuts"

"DESTINY made me what I am but it was FATE that kept me through the dark"

"Of an epiphany"

"Take the left fork through the forest, but keep an eye on Leroy because I am afraid he’s POSSESSED BY DEMONS."

"MONEY is no use"

"Take a closer look at the situation at hand please- I think you’ll see that I am far more sane than feell-"

"Herd of turtles"

"Let’s all take a look at what is happening"

"Mommy, don’t make me any more asparagus. It will be the end of me, if you know what I mean"

"DESTROY"

"LOOK AROUND AND Y— please tell me you saw that looking ian-ian. He was inte-"

"Holy cow, can all of this take any longer?"

"-LIE I’M in it now"

"feasIBLE LOOKING AT THE-"

"I’ll try my-"

"touch bread note"

"We could always look the other way when it comes to our own. No way"

"CREATING FIRES"

"There’s nothing I can-"

"DRY RUN of my shortcomings"

"—t thohgt I am aw-"

"Please don’t ta-"

"—prepared in the last t-"

"Watching my shadow grow long against the candy kingdom"

"On the road to ruin, men!"

"Stubbed my toe unacceptably on cast-"

"Plan: Lemongrab"

"LEMONGRABS PORTION"

"The genuine article, Lemongrab’s birthday-"

"A look at what’s going on here, RAINS OF cleansing BIRTH! I should open arms, but it burns IT BURNS!"

"Getting what is rightfully mine and I will reign over this land with terrible fury"

"Try to stop me from walking for days around the kingdom in hopes of finding the ones who have deprived me of my-"

"LOST THE wings OF my pretty little birds"

"My only warning"

"To be a lonely lemon man. TOO LONELY"

"Unrelenting thirst for the sweet, SWEET NECTAR FOR THREE DAYS"

"Oh what a good boy am I"

”- of my enemies and when all was over.”

"Nonsense I say, NONSENSE"

"Feeel bad for the— who try to read— thoughts— our brain no— because— are to be fo— -n or my fut— but then-"

"Lemongrab’s birthday is only ttwoooo months away and we are very excited for him- will he guess his surprise gift? No I don’t think so… No no no! It’s not that kind of gift, not the kind one can g— It’s so EXTRAORDINARY!" This particular line and parts of it appear at least three times, actually.

"Oh, I’m a pretty little flower"

"Please forgive my outburst, I am an angry little Lemongrab"

"I not see the future, you bet I can’t— Would I like to? Of course. Should I? OF COURSE I SHOULD"

"It look around until the sun is in the hole of your brain mind."

"You would have gone to the ranch if he had"

"CANDY is something I’ll always REMEMBER"

"I’m sorry, pal"

"Call me crazy, but I think it’s time for us to out Johnny"

”- unto others as you would have them destroyed”

"Hello my little pooter"

"Sounds like a nice idea but in reality you’d-"

"Around and tell me I’m not crazy"

Everything else either escaped my eye, or was illegible/incoherent; any ones we didn’t catch would be appreciated. There’s a larger, clearer, unhighlighted version of the above image here.

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dragonkeeper19600:

All aboard the Fan Wank train! Choo choo!

Yes, I know it’s been a few weeks since the Adventure Time episode “Too Old,” aired, and it’s been even longer since my last wank, but so many lemony thoughts about the episode and the Lemongrabs in general have been swirling…

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merleawe:

The episode “Too Old” had more going on in it than a majority of you actually realize. In fact, this episode is just about as emotionally gripping as “Simon and Marcy” when you realize the magnitude of what actually happened.

So to clear up a considerable amount of the unjust hate aimed at…

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overstate:

Kowloon Walled City | A population density nightmare

Kowloon Walled City was a largely ungoverned Chinese settlement in Kowloon, Hong Kong, comprising of 350 interconnected high-rise buildings where 33,000 residents lived within a plot measuring just 210 meter by 120 meter. Originally a Chinese military fort, the Walled City became an enclave after the New Territories were leased to Britain in 1898. Its population increased dramatically following the Japanese occupation of Hong Kong during World War II and reached a peak of 33,000 residents in 1987. When it was demolished in 1993-94, it was thought to be the most densely populated place on earth.

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